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Old 08.13.01, 06:05 PM   #1
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Just curious about the role of the late Ed Lefler.

I just read a response from Stuff No More and he said something about how Ed L could help let the steam out when things got heated. I don't doubt this at all. In fact I've heard a lot of good things about how Ed L. handled the band. My question is does anyone know the extent of Ed's relationship with the band and what he did to help people see eye to eye?
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Very interesting topic, CK.

It's pretty obvious that once Ed Leffler passed away... So did VH. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

I did a search for you. A lot of this stuff makes you think.

http://www.vhnd.com/archive/0796raydanniels.shtml
http://www.vhnd.com/press/sh970615.html
http://www.vhlinks.com/pages/intervi.../gm110900.html
http://www.vhlinks.com/pages/interviews/ma/tiwi98.html
http://www.roadkill.com/MDB/comments.phtml/10394
http://www.2112.net/powerwindows/sammyhagar.htm
http://www.redrocker.com/rollingstone.html
http://www.richwyman.f2s.com/makingof.html
http://www.dlrarmy.com/hitchworld196...kChapter19.txt
http://www.dlrarmy.com/hitchworld196...kChapter20.txt

R.I.P. Ed Leffler. And thanks for the memories.

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Seems Leffler stepped in and made life wonderful for the band with Sammy.

They (Sammy and Vh Bros.) were pretty much lost without a good manager to be the mediator.

This is why, I think, right now, they dont have any managment and are trying to find one. Daniels was a mess, that did not work.

Good Luck boys !!
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I don't know a whole hell of alot about Ed L. I know he and Sam were very, very close.
If Ed had never died Sam and Ed would still be the best of friends and Van Halen would still be the best band in the world-not the afterthought that they have become.

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Normally I don't have anything bad to say about Sam. However, I did notice something disturbing in one of those interviews.

In no less than 10 lines, he contradicts himself in a HUGE way.

He states something to the effect that "I want the fans to know I would have never quit this band."

2 questions later, when asked if he thought he'd still be in the band, he said "oh no way...I'd have quit already."

I'm a big Sammy fan (a big DLR fan, too) but I think our guys get themselves into trouble with all of us when they don't keep their thoughts straight. They ought to know by now we'll find 'em out! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
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No worse a contradiction than Ed has made in the past.

Basically it seems like Van Halen needs a manager behind them that is capable of understanding the emotions and moods of the band at the time and does whatever he can to make sure they all stay cool. I have no doubt that Danniels is a master at reading people - he just uses that knowledge to better his standing, not the band's. How else would he have totally won over the Van Halens AND managed to weasel his way into a cut of the old albums?
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I think what Sam is getting at is that if VH had remained as it was he would have never quit but with all the changes that were going on and if things would have continued to deteriorate he would have quit.

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Guys...hang on a minute.

I know my last reply above may appear to be "Sam-bashing" but it was not intended to be that way. In fact, the reason I posted those remarks is that I am sick of all the bashing going on around here, especially when it comes to Sammy. I pointed that out because it's unfortunate that Sam sometimes says stuff that some of the more "vociferous" opponents will take that comment and scream bloody murder.

I do agree with what you were saying though, Al. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
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Ed L. and Sammy had a 1-2 lock on all of the business ventures of VH. I'd bet that it was all hunky-dory that way until FUCK - by then Ed, Al and Mike were so deep up to their assholes and elbows in it they couldn't make a change even if they had wanted to...

But hey, I wasn't there [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] What do I know?
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