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voivod
07.10.08, 03:16 AM
The Rev. Jesse Jackson apologized Wednesday for saying Barack Obama is “talking down to black people” during what Jackson thought was a private conversation before a FOX News interview Sunday.

Jackson was speaking to a guest at the time about Obama’s speeches in black churches and his support for faith-based charities. Jackson added before going live, “I want to cut his nuts off.”

His microphone picked up the remarks.

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=490ae440-27ee-4e00-a68a-7191e9205de3

http://livenews.com.au/articles/2008/07/10/Jesse_Jackson_says_sorry_to_Obama_for_crude_remark

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/07/09/jesse-jackson-apologizes-for-crude-and-hurtful-obama-remarks/

Ace Ventura
07.10.08, 03:39 AM
I was watching this before work this morning... too funny....

The Obama campaign manager has "accepted the Rev. Jackson's apology".

What I loved was the Obama clip that, "Spanish people, as they enter the United States, will learn English. If you want to improve the lives of your children, have them learn Spanish". Talk about pandering to voters!!! Don't make a commitment either way or anything!!! Just stradle the fence for as long as possible and try to pick up the Spanish vote along the way....

This guy scares me the more I hear him talk....

onefootoutthedoor
07.10.08, 03:49 AM
Whatta maroon.

Dave's Dreidel
07.10.08, 03:57 AM
It is still beyond my understanding that people still send money to Jesse Jackson's "charity". I would love for his ass to be audited by the IRS. I would love to know what percentage of contribution dollars actually make it into Jesse's pocket versus the poor people he is supposedly trying to help.

I would love to be wrong about the guy, but I think he is a fraud hiding behind a minister's collar. There isn't a hot enough corner in hell for people like him in my opinion.

ZeoBandit
07.10.08, 05:23 AM
Jackson is a total duchebag. I'm glad this happened to him.

sickman
07.10.08, 05:32 AM
It is still beyond my understanding that people still send money to Jesse Jackson's "charity". I would love for his ass to be audited by the IRS. I would love to know what percentage of contribution dollars actually make it into Jesse's pocket versus the poor people he is supposedly trying to help.

I would love to be wrong about the guy, but I think he is a fraud hiding behind a minister's collar. There isn't a hot enough corner in hell for people like him in my opinion.

Problem is if he was audited it would be "racially motivated" in his eyes and would be another soapbox opportunity for him to take aim at how racist our Gov't is. This guy is such an asshole, imagine if Imus said that. He would be hung in the town square. Whoops, I'm sorry, I've heard that talking about hangings is racist too.

pgaugh5150
07.10.08, 05:43 AM
Jackson should just keep his mouth shut along with Al Sharpton.

voivod
07.10.08, 06:35 AM
It is still beyond my understanding that people still send money to Jesse Jackson's "charity". I would love for his ass to be audited by the IRS. I would love to know what percentage of contribution dollars actually make it into Jesse's pocket versus the poor people he is supposedly trying to help.

I would love to be wrong about the guy, but I think he is a fraud hiding behind a minister's collar. There isn't a hot enough corner in hell for people like him in my opinion.

Old, but...
http://www.enterstageright.com/archive/articles/0401jackson.htm

LLFHS
07.10.08, 07:18 AM
Gee.......funny how Sharpton isn't calling for a boycott or a dismissal of Jackson in any way. He DID insult a black man after all, right?

EVHgirl in Va
07.10.08, 08:16 AM
Not only did he insult him LL he wants to cut offhis nuts! Lawd!!!!! Isn't that a physical threat! :rolleyes:

I'm over the moon that his stupid ass got caught "being exactly what he is!":thumb:

SLEEPER5150
07.10.08, 08:57 AM
I'm not a supporter of Jackson's at all but I will give him credit for having honest opinions and sticking to his guns regarding candidates both republican or democrat. Sharpton has a special place in hell waiting for him. Like I said I'm not a supporter of his but being a Canadian it is refreshing to be able to see a man of faith be able to have an opinion. Up here Religion is villaified and any mention of church and state in the same sentance and you're jumped on. I simply have my own beliefs. I don't go to church, but I don't think anyone has the right to discredit another persons beliefs. In BC here, the past few years, there's even been discussions on open line weather or not we should celebrate Christmas, or Haunika (spelling? sorry) openly and also if it should be a stat holiday any more because of it's irrellevance with so many Buhdists, and Muslims in the country now. Come on! If this is a "free utopia" let me the fuck out!

sickman
07.10.08, 09:11 AM
I'm not a supporter of Jackson's at all but I will give him credit for having honest opinions and sticking to his guns regarding candidates both republican or democrat. Sharpton has a special place in hell waiting for him. Like I said I'm not a supporter of his but being a Canadian it is refreshing to be able to see a man of faith be able to have an opinion. Up here Religion is villaified and any mention of church and state in the same sentance and you're jumped on. I simply have my own beliefs. I don't go to church, but I don't think anyone has the right to discredit another persons beliefs. In BC here, the past few years, there's even been discussions on open line weather or not we should celebrate Christmas, or Haunika (spelling? sorry) openly and also if it should be a stat holiday any more because of it's irrellevance with so many Buhdists, and Muslims in the country now. Come on! If this is a "free utopia" let me the fuck out!


WHAT....He totally tried to deny that he even said anything, and then put his tail between his legs and apologized. He may have his opinion but will immediately back down from it when confronted. This man is nothing but a hypocritical racist himself. There is a special place in hell for him and Sharpton.

SLEEPER5150
07.10.08, 02:56 PM
WHAT....He totally tried to deny that he even said anything, and then put his tail between his legs and apologized. He may have his opinion but will immediately back down from it when confronted. This man is nothing but a hypocritical racist himself. There is a special place in hell for him and Sharpton.
Did he deny it? I did'nt see this, sorry. Like I said I'm not a supporter. I'm refferencing more from his past. I did'nt realize this. I heard on the radio this morning that he was unapolagetic regarding his remarks and he was taking some of the religious leaders to task, so I guess that was wrong reporting.I can remember him standing up for his convictions over the years. I bet he was sorry though! A religious figure saying "I want to cut his nuts off" On a hot mic . Gotta admit that's pretty funny! I did not mean anything other than you guys at least still have a forum to talk about any of this shit. You know, two weeks ago Ben Stein who is a religious guy was on the radio here in BC via phone about a book regarding religion in politics or something, and one of our wonderful militant athiests decided to call up and call him a liar, deceptor, and a emotional rapist. I couldn't believe it! Ok. You're not religious I get it, but who was this fuck to absolutely trash and belittle Ben Stein simply because of his background? Ben obviously didn't think much of it and hung up.
Anyway. No offence. I totally understand. I just didn't see it. I still don't think he is close to Sharpton. But hey what do I know?:devil:

sickman
07.10.08, 04:25 PM
Hey no problem man, I thought it was funny as hell, kind of like the time GB was running for president and leaned over to DC after giving a speech and calling some reporter in the front row a "major asshole" . That to was funny.

EVHgirl in Va
07.10.08, 04:28 PM
Hey no problem man, I thought it was funny as hell, kind of like the time GB was running for president and leaned over to DC after giving a speech and calling some reporter in the front row a "major asshole" . That to was funny.

Oh yeah! That was GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!! I usually forget that stuff, not that comment though.... :D

Booth
07.10.08, 06:15 PM
Gee.......funny how Sharpton isn't calling for a boycott or a dismissal of Jackson in any way. He DID insult a black man after all, right?

because al sharpton is an asshole :thumb:

LLFHS
07.10.08, 08:03 PM
because al sharpton is an asshole :thumb:

I knew someone could break the code for me.





:D

Nickdfresh
07.10.08, 08:08 PM
I was watching this before work this morning... too funny....

The Obama campaign manager has "accepted the Rev. Jackson's apology".

What I loved was the Obama clip that, "Spanish people, as they enter the United States, will learn English. If you want to improve the lives of your children, have them learn Spanish". Talk about pandering to voters!!! Don't make a commitment either way or anything!!! Just stradle the fence for as long as possible and try to pick up the Spanish vote along the way....

This guy scares me the more I hear him talk....

But yet you voted for George "business interest" Bush...

BTW, what has he done about illegal immigration?

Axxman300
07.10.08, 08:50 PM
I'm suprised that nobody has mentioned - in the past seven years - how much freakin' money the Bush family makes in Mexico. It would make you sick, and it's why Bush hasn't done jack on illegal immagration with Mexico.

Oh, as far as Jackson goes, it was just a sad and funny remark and nothing more.

Has no substance beyond Friday afternoon. If anything, it shows how much the mainstream news folks don't understand African-Americans, and that's not a campain issue either.

track 5
07.10.08, 09:49 PM
Oh, as far as Jackson goes, it was just a sad and funny remark and nothing more.



Because it was black on black. That's why the fucking media isn't going to run with it. And yes I know you didn't say anything about the media. I was just saying it really shouldn't be just a sad and funny remark. Jesus dude, could you imagine the fucking "death to all" if a white man said those things. Fuck jackson and what he said. I think there is more audio that goes along with this, but that's not the point. The point is that jesse said these things and if a white man did, it would bring down the house. Front page type shit. But homeboy gets a free pass. Him and his boy (sharpton) do nothing for race relations...Period. They only bring it down several notches. Out.

track 5
07.10.08, 09:58 PM
I'm suprised that nobody has mentioned - in the past seven years - how much freakin' money the Bush family makes in Mexico. It would make you sick, and it's why Bush hasn't done jack on illegal immagration with Mexico.




Hell that wouldn't ...strike that, it doesn't surprise me at all. Hell I live here in Texas. You think we are all fired up about the illegal bullshit we have to put up with here? Fuckin' A it rules. Out.

LLFHS
07.10.08, 11:09 PM
Because it was black on black. That's why the fucking media isn't going to run with it. And yes I know you didn't say anything about the media. I was just saying it really shouldn't be just a sad and funny remark. Jesus dude, could you imagine the fucking "death to all" if a white man said those things. Fuck jackson and what he said. I think there is more audio that goes along with this, but that's not the point. The point is that jesse said these things and if a white man did, it would bring down the house. Front page type shit. But homeboy gets a free pass. Him and his boy (sharpton) do nothing for race relations...Period. They only bring it down several notches. Out.

+1

sickman
07.11.08, 05:10 AM
I'm suprised that nobody has mentioned - in the past seven years - how much freakin' money the Bush family makes in Mexico. It would make you sick, and it's why Bush hasn't done jack on illegal immagration with Mexico.

Oh, as far as Jackson goes, it was just a sad and funny remark and nothing more.

Has no substance beyond Friday afternoon. If anything, it shows how much the mainstream news folks don't understand African-Americans, and that's not a campaign issue either.

Ok how much $$ has the Bush family made from illegal immigration. Lets here it smart guy. Are you also one of those brainiacs that believe Bush helped Bin Laden with 9/11 to get rid of the Jews. And what is Obama going to do about illegal immigration, make them all legal and give them the social programs they so desire, free health care, free collage, affordable housing. At what cost. Do you want to see more and more of your paycheck go to the government to pay for the education of a bunch of people who's own country doesn't give a shit about them. Oh yeah and now all of our children are going to be required to learn Spanish in school. That's fine and dandy but now if all Americans can speak Spanish than why should the Mexicans learn English.

As far as the subject of this thread you are right, it was just a man expressing his feelings about another. Who the hell cares, but Phil Gram was partially right when he said that America has become a bunch of winers. That is why this and topics like it stick around.

Ace Ventura
07.11.08, 05:38 AM
But yet you voted for George "business interest" Bush...

BTW, what has he done about illegal immigration?

I voted for Al Gore.

pal1800
07.11.08, 10:21 AM
Guess Barak not's black enough. Jackson would probably be happy if Obama promised reparations to all blacks and to enslave all whites!

Guitar Shark
07.11.08, 10:23 AM
I knew someone could break the code for me.





:D

LOL...

Axxman300
07.11.08, 01:47 PM
Heh...

http://obamaschocolatenuts.com/

Click the link, trust me...:sssh:

smme5150
07.11.08, 02:06 PM
Because it was black on black. That's why the fucking media isn't going to run with it. And yes I know you didn't say anything about the media. I was just saying it really shouldn't be just a sad and funny remark. Jesus dude, could you imagine the fucking "death to all" if a white man said those things. Fuck jackson and what he said. I think there is more audio that goes along with this, but that's not the point. The point is that jesse said these things and if a white man did, it would bring down the house. Front page type shit. But homeboy gets a free pass. Him and his boy (sharpton) do nothing for race relations...Period. They only bring it down several notches. Out.

The problem now is that the media, corporate sponsors and even John McCain is afraid to challenge Obama, Jackson, Sharpton because they are afraid to be labeled "racist". The last few years has been a perfect storm for Obama'a campaign with the Imus incident, Trent Lott and numerous others that were innappropriately labeled as racist. Now everyone is afraid to call a spade a spade( pun intended) when it is necessary. Make no mistake, Obama is the next president. Like a sign I saw recently said " A taxpayer who votes for Obama is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders!" Open blank check that we will all pick up the tab for for the liberal dream of a socialistic Utopia. After all people of the links, you are not smart enough to fend for yourself in life, you need the government and Mr. Obama to handle that for you. ;)

fudd
07.11.08, 02:36 PM
Make no mistake, Obama is the next president. )
Hope he picks a good Vice President, he'll need it.

hain23x
07.11.08, 05:43 PM
here's the real reason Jackson doesn't like Obama (http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/play.shtml?mea=224714);) :D


and this is funny too
N1atNK9eYdY

track 5
07.11.08, 08:58 PM
The problem now is that the media, corporate sponsors and even John McCain is afraid to challenge Obama, Jackson, Sharpton because they are afraid to be labeled "racist". The last few years has been a perfect storm for Obama'a campaign with the Imus incident, Trent Lott and numerous others that were innappropriately labeled as racist. Now everyone is afraid to call a spade a spade( pun intended) when it is necessary. Make no mistake, Obama is the next president. Like a sign I saw recently said " A taxpayer who votes for Obama is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders!" Open blank check that we will all pick up the tab for for the liberal dream of a socialistic Utopia. After all people of the links, you are not smart enough to fend for yourself in life, you need the government and Mr. Obama to handle that for you. ;)

There is no doubt about the media's holding back on this. Sad commentary all around. Maybe when Obama gets the big chair he can magically make the high gas prices go down. Oh shit I forgot the president can't do that. Out.

track 5
07.11.08, 09:07 PM
+1

Why the plus one thing here? Did my post warrant a closing? Just curious as to why you said that. I thought it was a well thought out post on my end. :headbang: Out.

LLFHS
07.11.08, 09:53 PM
Why the plus one thing here? Did my post warrant a closing? Just curious as to why you said that. I thought it was a well thought out post on my end. :headbang: Out.

It was a point in your favor.

As in....I agree.

track 5
07.11.08, 10:31 PM
It was a point in your favor.

As in....I agree.

Well I wasn't sure. I got that mixed up with the count down thing that goes on here. My bad. That's what threw me off. :thumb: Out.

LLFHS
07.12.08, 12:03 AM
No worries, mate.

voivod
07.17.08, 03:36 AM
CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- The Rev. Jesse Jackson used the N-word during a break in a TV interview where he criticized presidential candidate Barack Obama, Fox News confirmed Wednesday.

The longtime civil rights leader already came under fire this month for crude off-air comments he made against Obama in what he thought was a private conversation during a taping of a "Fox & Friends" news show.

In additional comments from that same conversation, first reported by TVNewser, Jackson is reported to have said Obama was "talking down to black people," and referred to blacks with the N-word when he said Obama was telling them "how to behave."

Though a Fox spokesman confirmed to The Associated Press that Jackson used the slur, the network declined to release the full transcript of the July 6 show and did not air the comments.

Jackson, who is now traveling in Spain, apologized in a statement last Wednesday for "hurtful words" but didn't offer specifics.

"I am deeply saddened and distressed by the pain and sorrow that I have caused as a result of my hurtful words. I apologize again to Senator Barack Obama, Michelle Obama, their children as well as to the American public," Jackson said in a written statement.

"There really is no justification for my comments and I hope that the Obama family and the American public will forgive me. I also pray that we, as a nation, can move on to address the real issues that affect the American people."

A spokeswoman for Jackson's civil rights organization, Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, said she could not confirm that Jackson used the slur.

billy007
07.17.08, 05:08 AM
MLK must be looking down right now, so very proud of the fruit of his labour...

sickman
07.17.08, 07:22 AM
Seriously, is there a bigger self hater in this country. I mean really, does this guy hate being black or just hate successful black people.

edwardv
07.17.08, 07:34 AM
I think all these remarks by Jesse were made on purpose to make white voters think there is a riff between him and the Obama camp so as to swing more white vote to Obama. Politics is a dirty business. Votes are all they pander for in any shape or form.

sickman
07.17.08, 09:05 AM
I think all these remarks by Jesse were made on purpose to make white voters think there is a riff between him and the Obama camp so as to swing more white vote to Obama. Politics is a dirty business. Votes are all they pander for in any shape or form.

I doubt that. He is just jealous that Obama is referred to by his own party as the FIRST bright and articulate African American to run for President.

VanHalenRules
07.17.08, 09:08 AM
What next? Is he going to get caught calling Michelle Obama a nappy headed ho?:wtf:

pal1800
07.17.08, 10:30 AM
What next? Is he going to get caught calling Michelle Obama a nappy headed ho?:wtf:Na, he uses that description for Condi.

You gotta just laugh at the rightous hypocrisy. Just imagine a white politician, official, whatever saying shit like that. They would be branded and scorned worse than the Nazi's.

lovemachine97(Version 2)
07.17.08, 02:50 PM
Here's the thing: Jackson THINKS he is the Black leader. Of course, he isn't, and there are many, many Blacks who dismiss him just as many Whites do. But even Jackson is smart enough to know that once Obama is elected, he will no longer be looked at by almost everyone as the Black leader.

Believe me, Jackson, IMO actually does NOT want Obama elected.

Guitar Shark
07.17.08, 03:01 PM
I imagine there's a fair amount of jealousy on Jackson's part over the fact that Obama has succeeded in being the first black man to get the party nomination. Jackson tried at least twice and failed both times.

Is that part of the reasoning behind these most recent comments? Maybe. Regardless, he's a racist tool, in my opinion.

ZORBA5150
07.17.08, 03:48 PM
Since when is Obama bright? Not based on his debates so far that's for sure.

Number 47
07.17.08, 03:58 PM
MLK must be looking down right now, so very proud of the fruit of his labour...

or the fruit of his loom.

Number 47
07.17.08, 04:07 PM
I think all these remarks by Jesse were made on purpose.

! Archie Bunker used to scratch off his lottery tickets on the All Star ballot box's.

Number 47
07.17.08, 04:17 PM
What next? Is he going to get caught calling Michelle Obama a nappy headed ho?:wtf:

No... but he has probably been on his knees wearing a Don Imus cowboy hat a few times.

Pull back Jessie's covers and find... tight white sheets. Martha Stewart 740 count.

Nickdfresh
07.17.08, 06:39 PM
I doubt that. He is just jealous that Obama is referred to by his own party as the FIRST bright and articulate African American to run for President.


He wasn't referred too "by his own party," but by Sen. Joe Biden as such.

But yes, clearly Jackson is just a jealous bitch at this point...

voivod
07.18.08, 03:42 AM
Should Rev. Jackson Be Fined For N-Word?
Laugh Factory Owner: Jackson Should Live Up To Own Ideals

LOS ANGELES -- The owner of a Los Angeles comedy club said the Rev. Jesse Jackson should pay up after being caught saying the N-word.

After Michael Richards got in trouble for shouting the word at a black patron at the Laugh Factory two years ago, owner Jamie Masada quickly joined Jackson in calling for a ban on the word's use.

Masada has implemented a $50 fine for each time a comic uses the word on his stage, and said Jackson should pay the same amount, to the Museum of Tolerance in Los Angeles.

Masada argues that "Jesse embraced the notion of fining talent for using such a word and he should be held to his own standards."

voivod
07.18.08, 03:45 AM
Spike Lee Slams Jackson Over Obama Jabs
Filmmaker Calls Rev.'s Words About Presidential Candidate 'Ignorant'

BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. -- Spike Lee said the Rev. Jesse Jackson's crudely phrased criticism of Barack Obama won't affect the Democrat's campaign, which the filmmaker expects to succeed at bringing "seismic" change to the world.

"I don't think his (Jackson's) comments help anybody. It's just unfortunate," Lee said after taking part in a Television Critics Association panel.

Lee predicted Obama would be elected in November.

"When that happens, it will change everything. ... You'll have to measure time by `Before Obama' and `After Obama,"' Lee said during the panel. "It's an exciting time to be alive now."

The presidency of the first African-American will ripple throughout arts, sports and more, said Lee, whose films include "Malcolm X" and "Do the Right Thing."

"Everything's going to be affected by this seismic change in the universe," he said.

Lee attended the TV group's annual summer session to discuss documentaries he's making for ESPN Films, including one about Kobe Bryant and the Los Angeles Lakers.

Jackson's comment about Obama came last Sunday during a break in Jackson's appearance on Fox News' "Fox & Friends." Unaware his microphone was on, Jackson told a fellow guest that Obama was "talking down" to blacks in speeches on morality at black churches; he also used a slang reference for wanting to sever Obama's testicles.

Jackson apologized Wednesday for "hurtful and wrong" remarks. Obama's campaign offered a low-key response, accepting the apology and defending against the notion that he neglected issues important to blacks.

Lee was more pointed when speaking of Jackson's remarks.

Asked if there was any validity to the criticism of Obama, Lee replied: "No. Here's the thing: I don't know why people are questioning whether Barack Obama is black enough. For me, that's an ignorant statement."

"There are middle-class, educated black people who speak the way he does ... we have to try to move away from this so-called image of what black is, which is largely influenced by rap and that type of stuff," Lee said.

"I'm for Mr. Obama," Lee said. "I think he's gonna win. And it's going to be a better day not only for the United States but for the world."

loveevhsince79
07.18.08, 07:17 PM
All Lee has to say is "it's unfortunate" when Jackson want to chop off Obama's jewels and calls him a "N" and yet he can go on a crusade against Eastwood for his movie for not including blacks even though they were not involved in the subject matter in real life??? Boy, this really shows what a smuck Spike Lee and Jesse Jackson really are. These guys are an embarassment.

track 5
07.18.08, 08:45 PM
Spike is a fucking racist ass! Always has been... always will be. There is always the "white" angle to all of his shit. But he has to have his "street cred" thing going on to be listened to. There is a fucking shock these days. Out.

sickman
07.19.08, 05:35 AM
How about Whoopie Goldberg on the view Friday saying the "N" word about 12 times to make a point and then Barbara Walters pipes in and say's "If I said that word I would be fired." Very true she would be. Whoopie's excuse was the word doesn't mean anything until you put a meaning behind it with the way you use it.

hain23x
07.19.08, 06:17 AM
"jibbidy....jabbidy....jibbidijabidy"--J. Jackson