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voivod
06.11.08, 05:31 PM
OMFuckingG!!
Are you kidding me!!! I'm going to sue you because you failed my personal responsibility needs :brickwall

TORONTO (Reuters) - Thousands of problem gamblers in have launched a $3.5 billion class action lawsuit in Ontario, saying they were allowed into provincially run casinos despite signing up for a program that should have denied them entry.

According to the CBC's website, the suit was filed earlier this week in Toronto, claiming the Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corp. did not fully enforce a "self exclusion" program that allows problem gamblers to ban themselves from casinos.

Those who sign up for the program are photographed and their personal information is stored in binders at all of the province's casinos.

If program members are caught trying to enter a casino they can be arrested for trespassing.

According to the CBC, gamblers who had signed up for the program said it was not working, including one who returned frequently for years after signing up for the program.

whatthehell?
06.11.08, 05:47 PM
OMFuckingG!!
Are you kidding me!!! I'm going to sue you because you failed my personal responsibility needs :brickwall

Wonder if any of them's the guy who sued the fast food chains when he got fat from eating at them.

Daisy Hill
06.11.08, 05:54 PM
I'm going to sue Folger's...but first I need another cup of coffee

pal1800
06.11.08, 05:59 PM
Awesome, this fits right in with the new progressive thinking movement. Nobody will have any personal responsibility. This is great!

Of course, there is the slight possibility these nuts will lose thier case as they did their $$$$$$!

MikeL
06.11.08, 08:14 PM
I've got no idea how the Canadian legal system works, but I can't imagine any US casino starting such a program.

I heard something about a gal suing a Vegas casino for serving her booze and encouraging her to gamble. She lost a considerable amount of money. She's a lawyer. She should be shot.

csm5150
06.11.08, 10:51 PM
I'm going to sue Folger's...but first I need another cup of coffee

I'll have to do the same to Coca-Cola then. Retarded suits. As someone who works in a casino, I don't see how this will fly-of course with our legal system, who knows. Most casinos have signs posted on their ads/at the casino for numbers you can call if you have a gambling problem. They also have a system where you can "ban" yourself from going to a casino. If you violate this, it is in essence trespassing and you get arrested for it.

ZeoBandit
06.12.08, 04:48 AM
Simply unbelievable. People need to take responsibility for their own actions.

jetguy5150
06.12.08, 04:51 AM
This is the type of bullshit lawsuit that will be won resulting in an overhaul of the system which will lead to massive lines at casinos as every person is I.D.'d to ensure that the .0003% of the clientele who are on this list do not get in.

The only thing that hasn't happened yet but I am sure is right around the corner...is people suing the auto manufacturers when they get speeding tickets. Can't wait for that one. "My client has been given a vehicle that travels upwards of 120mph however there is no road in North America that these speeds can be used. This is clearly reckless endangerment of my client and the manufacturer needs to take responsibility."

MF5150
06.12.08, 05:06 AM
You know what...the Casinos should give those angry customers 3 billion dollars......because you know where all that money is going to end up anyway :devil:

Place your bets! :headbang:

jetguy5150
06.12.08, 05:16 AM
You know what...the Casinos should give those angry customers 3 billion dollars......because you know where all that money is going to end up anyway :devil:

Place your bets! :headbang:

You are probably one of those clowns behind this lawsuit. :D

jrk5150
06.12.08, 06:47 AM
Fascinating how well some read before posting.


They also have a system where you can "ban" yourself from going to a casino. If you violate this, it is in essence trespassing and you get arrested for it.

Uh, dude, this IS what they're sueing over, they say it doesn't work. :p ;)

Stupid suit, but even dumber to have that "self ban" system. You put something in place and say it'll work in X way, then you open yourself up to liability if it doesn't work that way.

Unlike the peanut airline suit, I think this is crap. HOWEVER, also unlike the peanut airline suit, depending on the self ban program and how it's worded, this one may have actual teeth. Thank God it's in Canada...

VanHalenRules
06.12.08, 06:56 AM
In the immortal words of Larry the Cable Guy:

"I'm suing Hustler for giving me carpel-tunnel."

It's Mike
06.12.08, 08:02 AM
I've got no idea how the Canadian legal system works, but I can't imagine any US casino starting such a program.

I heard something about a gal suing a Vegas casino for serving her booze and encouraging her to gamble. She lost a considerable amount of money. She's a lawyer. She should be shot.

US Casinos (at least those in Vegas) also have a self exclusion program.

stevenh
06.12.08, 08:20 AM
I'm a dealer at a Casino here in the U.S. All Casino's have a self exclusion program. The only problem is, it doesn't apply to all casino's, just the particular casino that the person "86'd" themselves from, and all of the related properties.

It absolutely kills me to see people trying to play catch up a the blackjack tables. People have no sense of personal responsibility. They always blame the dealer, or because someone didn't play their hand right.

A total bunch of losers.

It's Mike
06.12.08, 08:27 AM
I've got no idea how the Canadian legal system works, but I can't imagine any US casino starting such a program.
.

This is Harrah's policy (I think they're the biggest casino company in the States).


Self Restriction/Self-Exclusion

Our "self-restriction" program allows a person to request not to receive direct marketing by Harrah's owned, managed, or operated properties, as well as be denied credit and check cashing privileges. Our "self-exclusion" program allows a guest to request to have all privileges, including play privileges denied at all Harrah's owned, managed, or operated properties. Forms to request self-restriction or self-exclusion are available at all Harrah's owned, managed, or operated properties or by calling 1-800-694-9960.

MF5150
06.12.08, 02:44 PM
You are probably one of those clowns behind this lawsuit. :D

No, I waste all my money at the fine Gentlemen's Clubs of Las Vegas and Niagara. :thumb:

By the way, you're gal says HI :D :sssh:

Daisy Hill
06.12.08, 04:44 PM
Anybody see the "invervention" program on A&E where some douchebag gambling addict owed so much money his parents refinanced their home and he went through everything he had and every friend he had?

He was a very strange, hyper intense guy....I remember one instance where he was standing in a casino and crying about how unfair it was that the cards were running against him.


This was a guy who was supposed to be some kind of mathematical/ scientific genius who had graduated from college at the age of 14....and he still wasn't rational enough to understand that THAT'S WHY THE GAMBLING INDUSTRY EXISTS ... If you want to make money gambling.....buy stock in a casino....it's the only bet that has a chance to pay off in the long run.

pal1800
06.12.08, 05:22 PM
The law suit is garbage, but gambling addiction is truly a sad thing. People lose their famlies and everything they worked for. I feel for them, but personal responsibility is the bottom line. Many other addictions destroy people also.

loveevhsince79
06.12.08, 05:51 PM
The law suit is garbage, but gambling addiction is truly a sad thing. People lose their famlies and everything they worked for. I feel for them, but personal responsibility is the bottom line. Many other addictions destroy people also.

It definitely destroys people. I watched this young man go from having the world by the tail to doing time.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Schlichter

i1sum2!
06.13.08, 05:58 AM
This is Harrah's policy (I think they're the biggest casino company in the States).


Self Restriction/Self-Exclusion

Our "self-restriction" program allows a person to request not to receive direct marketing by Harrah's owned, managed, or operated properties, as well as be denied credit and check cashing privileges. Our "self-exclusion" program allows a guest to request to have all privileges, including play privileges denied at all Harrah's owned, managed, or operated properties. Forms to request self-restriction or self-exclusion are available at all Harrah's owned, managed, or operated properties or by calling 1-800-694-9960.

You are correct, as I used to work for Harrahs. They will do everything in their power to help you once you acknowledge that you have a gambling problem but until you do, your on you own. I remember many yrs. ago going thru orientation where they tell you that the house is 99% profitable, while the guests are in that measly 1%. What does that tell you?

Don't gamble, because the house will take your money!:devil:

And that lady lawyer suing I have to say, is absolutely appalling! Nobody put a gun to her head and said throw your money away at the tables.

Daisy Hill
06.13.08, 06:09 AM
and here in Ohio we are trying for the umpteenth time to get gambling legalized so that casinos can get built....and the ad campaign is hilarious....Jamie Farr and Vickie F'n Lawrence as "Mama" in commercials telling us that 39 other states have legalized gambling and so should we.. :irked: ..with the Ohio economy in the shitter, this could very well pass out of desperation this time

pgaugh5150
06.13.08, 06:10 AM
I can't believe how people can sue for anything and everything.

i1sum2!
06.13.08, 06:22 AM
and here in Ohio we are trying for the umpteenth time to get gambling legalized so that casinos can get built....and the ad campaign is hilarious....Jamie Farr and Vickie F'n Lawrence as "Mama" in commercials telling us that 39 other states have legalized gambling and so should we.. :irked: ..with the Ohio economy in the shitter, this could very well pass out of desperation this time

And most likely will too, is my guess. All the old folks will vote it in, you can bet. Where else are they gonna go to spend their retirement funds? At the casinos of course! They be some slot machine playin' fools, those old blue hairs!

I remember when Bill Cosby used to perform at Harrahs yrs. ago and they used his likeness on billboards everywhere. Saw one in Colorado, and couldn't believe the Cos, who holds education is such high regard, would allow that. :eek:

pal1800
06.13.08, 09:27 AM
It definitely destroys people. I watched this young man go from having the world by the tail to doing time.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_SchlichterThats one screwed up story. I remember hearing about the guy and his fall from the top, but I never knew it went on for so long and probably still does. Terrible.

Lightning Fingers
06.13.08, 10:40 AM
You got to know when to hold 'em
know when to fold 'em
Know when to walk away
and know when to run

You never count your money
When you're sitting at the table
There'll be time enough for counting
When the dealing's done.

Sorry if I'm being blunt, but what a bunch of losers who have a gambling problem and don't have the will power to stay away. As for the province and this program, were they monitoring it to prevent these people from getting into a casino? I hope the judge will toss this one out as frivious and vexatious.

ziggysmalls
06.13.08, 10:49 AM
I personally find it funny here in Ohio that they won't allow gambling but I know people who blow 500 a week on lottery tickets. Anyway its called gambling for a reason. You are gambling against the odds to win some money. Just like when a person smokes that cigarette, they are gambling they won't be the one who catches cancer.

They should open up Casinos in Ohio. At least here in Cleveland because the city is already in the shitter and its not because of people going to Detroit, Windsor or Niagara.

smithjc
06.13.08, 10:49 AM
and here in Ohio we are trying for the umpteenth time to get gambling legalized so that casinos can get built....and the ad campaign is hilarious....Jamie Farr and Vickie F'n Lawrence as "Mama" in commercials telling us that 39 other states have legalized gambling and so should we.. :irked: ..with the Ohio economy in the shitter, this could very well pass out of desperation this time

I'm guessing Jamie Farr was "Mama." :confused: :D

People need to take responsiblity for their actions. Idiots.

csm5150
06.13.08, 01:14 PM
Fascinating how well some read before posting.



Uh, dude, this IS what they're sueing over, they say it doesn't work. :p ;)



Fascinating how you miss the point: the casino does everything in their power not to let you gamble. They no longer send you mail and tell you if you set foot on property, you will be arrested. You are in essence barred from the casino. If you enter, then its on you, not the casino. :D Its called self 86 or self exclusion, as someone else mentioned it.

i1sum2!
06.13.08, 01:30 PM
I have no sympathy for anybody who sits in a casino with a ball & chain attached to their leg and loses their ass to the house. You should know better. And to blame a casino for your problem? Then go on to sue them for your problem? I hope this gets thrown out.

voivod
06.13.08, 04:46 PM
and here in Ohio we are trying for the umpteenth time to get gambling legalized so that casinos can get built....and the ad campaign is hilarious....Jamie Farr and Vickie F'n Lawrence as "Mama" in commercials telling us that 39 other states have legalized gambling and so should we.. :irked: ..with the Ohio economy in the shitter, this could very well pass out of desperation this time

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Daisy Hill
06.14.08, 04:48 AM
could have lived without seeing that again vovoid. That's television that was made for the remote...click!

I think it's hysterical that the PAC responsible for getting this on the ballot, yet again, shows such comtempt for the people of Ohio that they drag out Vickie Lawrence and her "comedy" routine to inform us of the benefits of legalized gambling. WTF does Vickie Lawrence have to do with Ohio? Do these schmucks think that that' the type of character all Ohioans relate to?
If that's really true, I expect Hee Haw Honeys to campaign for McCain in Ohio.


And Jamie Farr!!!!!!! Geez... the TV stations and papers are always hauling out him and Katie Holmes as Toledo's contribution to the world of arts UGH

Darby
06.14.08, 08:44 AM
This is the type of bullshit lawsuit that will be won resulting in an overhaul of the system which will lead to massive lines at casinos as every person is I.D.'d to ensure that the .0003% of the clientele who are on this list do not get in.

The only thing that hasn't happened yet but I am sure is right around the corner...is people suing the auto manufacturers when they get speeding tickets. Can't wait for that one. "My client has been given a vehicle that travels upwards of 120mph however there is no road in North America that these speeds can be used. This is clearly reckless endangerment of my client and the manufacturer needs to take responsibility."


Hey, that's a great argument. I'm calling my lawyer right now! :D

Viking
06.14.08, 03:23 PM
I'll have to do the same to Coca-Cola then. Retarded suits. As someone who works in a casino, I don't see how this will fly-of course with our legal system, who knows. Most casinos have signs posted on their ads/at the casino for numbers you can call if you have a gambling problem. They also have a system where you can "ban" yourself from going to a casino. If you violate this, it is in essence trespassing and you get arrested for it.

Same here. Here's a true story:

We had gone to a smoke shop in Las Vegas to get cigarettes for my parents, and while we were there, I grabbed a Coke. I got into the car and opened it, and took a swig. Now, I check every time I open a bottle of Coke to make sure that it hasn't already been opened and this bottle hadn't been opened. I got a big mouthful of chewing tobacco! I promptly spit it out, puked in the parking lot, and when we got home, I poured it down the drain. I could have sued the fuck out of Coca-Cola, and my sister who was with me at the time, still tells me that I should have, but I just don't think that way I guess. Is it Coca-Cola's fault that some jackass somehow got chewing tobacco in my bottle? No. If anything, I would like to find this jackass and beat the ever living fuck out of him.

It's Mike
06.14.08, 08:25 PM
Same here. Here's a true story:

We had gone to a smoke shop in Las Vegas to get cigarettes for my parents, and while we were there, I grabbed a Coke. I got into the car and opened it, and took a swig. Now, I check every time I open a bottle of Coke to make sure that it hasn't already been opened and this bottle hadn't been opened. I got a big mouthful of chewing tobacco! I promptly spit it out, puked in the parking lot, and when we got home, I poured it down the drain. I could have sued the fuck out of Coca-Cola, and my sister who was with me at the time, still tells me that I should have, but I just don't think that way I guess. Is it Coca-Cola's fault that some jackass somehow got chewing tobacco in my bottle? No. If anything, I would like to find this jackass and beat the ever living fuck out of him.

society needs more people like you Viking. The only thing I would have done different is to maybe contact Coke to tell them of what happened so they could ensure shit like this didn't happen in the future. I also imagine they'd send you a couple bottles of free Coke. :)

vcooper3
06.15.08, 04:46 PM
Why can't people take responsibility for their own actions? Everyone has an excuse. These dumbasses should use the money they used to hire a lawyer to attend some type of intervention program that will help their gambling addiction.

This ranks up there with people trying to sue bars claiming they were "overserved" after they got a DUI or caused a wreck while intoxicated.

jetguy5150
06.16.08, 05:46 AM
Why can't people take responsibility for their own actions? Everyone has an excuse. These dumbasses should use the money they used to hire a lawyer to attend some type of intervention program that will help their gambling addiction.



And to make it even better....if they win all this money on this law suit...where do you think they are going to head immediately with all that new found money? :sssh:

Daisy Hill
06.16.08, 07:22 AM
And to make it even better....if they win all this money on this law suit...where do you think they are going to head immediately with all that new found money? :sssh:



Cool! That's going to buy a lot of "scratch offs" at the bowling alley!