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Master Joe
09.10.00, 02:09 PM
I'm from Ireland and before I got on the net my only info on VH/DLR was thru' Magazines (obviously).

Now any time favourite VH album's were written about it was usually VH1 or else 1984,(W+CF the odd time).

But any time American bands were interviewed it was nearly always FW that was their fave.

And now since I'm on the net FW is nearly always the fans favourite.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's a brilliant album, But why the difference between Europe and the States. You guy"s are absolutely nuts for this album.

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Glenn
09.10.00, 02:31 PM
I think that it's almost too easy to say that VH 1 or 1984 are the best because they have sold so many copies are are the most recognized by rock fans in general. With that, I think a die hard fan is more inclined to feel an allegiance to an album that is both amazing, and a little less known by the general rock crowd. That album to me is Fair Warning. It completely stands on it's own as a piece of rock mastery; and yet I feel an affinity for it also because it's less popular historically.

Unchained Wolfie
09.10.00, 03:37 PM
Cuz it kicks my ass when I hear it!!! http://208.50.7.95/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gifhttp://208.50.7.95/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gifhttp://208.50.7.95/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif

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BigBubba
09.10.00, 03:59 PM
glenn and wolfie said it right! i totally agree! it rules! because ya know when it came out it didnt get too much attention right? but its totally incredible! amazing shit! people dont see how great it is because they only look at the albums with the "hits". ya know what i mean people? except die harders like most of us here. we love everything. lol!

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dropdeadlegs
09.10.00, 06:19 PM
IMO, Fair Warning is the best Van Halen record 'cause it's the most experimental. Aside from the usual Van Halen hard rockers' like "Unchained", "Mean Street", "Sinners Swing" and "So this is Love?" you have R & B funk inspired stuff like "Dirty Movies" and "Push Comes To Shove. " You even have tripped out keyboard tunes like "Sunday Afternoon In The Park" and "One Foot Out The Door". Unlike later albums, with Fair Warning they were able to experiment with different sounds without compromising that signature "down 'n dirty, raunchy" Van Halen sound. Another reason alot of us might like it is 'cause it was such a dark, moody record, something we didn't really see in other Van Halen records. It's hard to explain my fondness for Fair Warning. It's kinda like the "runt" Van Halen album. Not alot of people wanted it (poor initial sales) so we took it in nutured and loved it like as if to compensate for it's lack of popularity. And besides it had cool cover artwork.

That's why Fair Warning's my favorite Van Halen album.

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kat
09.10.00, 07:57 PM
I agree with the others...however, I think my reason for listing Fair Warning as my favorite album is because this was my first Van Halen album...we'll call it my sentimental favorite. http://208.50.7.95/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif

After getting into this album and seeing the tour, I went out and purchased the previous 3, and all future recordings (with DLR).

Guess you could say VH got me hook, line, and sinker.

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Spanish Doctor
09.11.00, 06:11 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Glenn:
I think that it's almost too easy to say that VH 1 or 1984 are the best because they have sold so many copies are are the most recognized by rock fans in general. With that, I think a die hard fan is more inclined to feel an allegiance to an album that is both amazing, and a little less known by the general rock crowd. That album to me is Fair Warning.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's perfectly true, and that goes for IRON
MAIDEN also.

Iron Maiden's highest selling album, and the one with the radio hit "Run To The Hills", is Number Of The Beast. However, you'll be hard-pressed to find a HARDCORE Maiden fan tell you that it's their favorite record. Most will name Powerslave, 7th son, or Piece of Mind. (For the record, mine is 7th son).

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paradiddle
09.11.00, 09:32 AM
Emotion, depth, character, tension, agression, discusses taboo, not overproduced (raw), it's real.

Even down to the cover, this ablum is shrouded in mystery that unfolds to each personally upon years of listening and study.

It's multi-layered, and it delievers time after time after time.



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Tucker
09.11.00, 04:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by paradiddle:
Emotion, depth, character, tension, agression, discusses taboo, not overproduced (raw), it's real.

Even down to the cover, this ablum is shrouded in mystery that unfolds to each personally upon years of listening and study.

It's multi-layered, and it delievers time after time after time.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Could not have said it any better.

Wolfman
09.11.00, 06:26 PM
Word, paradiddle. http://208.50.7.95/vhlforum/smilies/cool.gif

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Mattyo5150
09.12.00, 12:03 AM
Well I like Fair Warning the most cause it came out in the year I was born and every song is about chicks. So there you go

Dr.5150
09.12.00, 04:58 AM
10 reasons

1. Mean Street
2. Dirty Movies
3. Sinners Swing!
4. Hear About It Later
5. Unchained
6. Push Comes to Shove
7. So This Is Love
8. Sunday Afternoon In the Park
9. One Foot Out The Door

10. It just Kicks Ass
Need anyone say more??

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Master Joe
09.12.00, 10:41 AM
I'm thinking here that some of you feel that I don't like FW, or that I can't believe why so many of you love it.

Nothing could be more further from the truth, the point I was trying to make was the difference between European and American VH fans.

I thought that maybe the reason all of you love the album was maybe it reflected your culture or your way of life. I just wanted to know what made this album click with so many American fans, what made all of you bond with it.

I was just making an observation on the love expressed for FW, and how it is almost exclusively felt in America.

I think it is great that a band with so many fans and huge selling albums can have have virtually all their fan-base united in their love for one particular album, which is not amongst their best-selling records, and one which the mainstream public are not too familiar with.

All I can really say is that I noticed how all of you LOVE this album, and I was just making a comment about that.

Just for the record my favourite VH album is not one of the two big ones (VH1/1984 - although I absolutely love them), it it Women and Children First - The perfect blend between Dazzling Musicianship and Outrageous Showmanship, all served up with a don't give a flying fuck attitude.





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Goo
09.13.00, 02:30 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mattyo5150:
Well I like Fair Warning the most cause it came out in the year I was born and every song is about chicks. So there you go<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Mean street is about chicks? http://208.50.7.95/vhlforum/smilies/smile.gif



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batch
09.13.00, 02:51 AM
it's a great record, deep good sounding, brown sound at the best.
..and i'm italian and my favourite album is FW...

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Glenn
09.13.00, 08:17 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Goo:
Mean street is about chicks?

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yup. Really MEAN chicks.http://208.50.7.95/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif

Down In Flames
09.14.00, 02:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Master Joe:
I'm thinking here that some of you feel that I don't like FW, or that I can't believe why so many of you love it.

Nothing could be more further from the truth, the point I was trying to make was the difference between European and American VH fans.

I thought that maybe the reason all of you love the album was maybe it reflected your culture or your way of life. I just wanted to know what made this album click with so many American fans, what made all of you bond with it.

I was just making an observation on the love expressed for FW, and how it is almost exclusively felt in America.

I think it is great that a band with so many fans and huge selling albums can have have virtually all their fan-base united in their love for one particular album, which is not amongst their best-selling records, and one which the mainstream public are not too familiar with.

All I can really say is that I noticed how all of you LOVE this album, and I was just making a comment about that.

Just for the record my favourite VH album is not one of the two big ones (VH1/1984 - although I absolutely love them), it it Women and Children First - The perfect blend between Dazzling Musicianship and Outrageous Showmanship, all served up with a don't give a flying fuck attitude. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Don't fret Master Joe. http://208.50.7.95/vhlforum/smilies/smile.gif

I don't think anyone was taking any offense to your question. I think that everyone was trying to explain why they love an album that wasn't welcomed with open arms back in 1981. http://208.50.7.95/vhlforum/smilies/wink.gif

FW and VHII continuously go back and forth as my favorite albums. http://208.50.7.95/vhlforum/smilies/smile.gif

FW is unlike any other VH album, IMO. It is experimental, and in fact - it's strange. (In a good way. http://208.50.7.95/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif )

The way that "Sunday Afternoon In The Park" blends into "One Foot Out The Door" ending the album is fantastic. http://208.50.7.95/vhlforum/smilies/cool.gif

There was a certain recklessness to the playing, but not in a careless sense - they were all just so loose. (Even though they were all tight behind the scenes. LOL.)

Props to Ireland, Master Joe. http://208.50.7.95/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif

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Goo
09.14.00, 02:28 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Glenn:

Originally posted by Goo:
Mean street is about chicks?

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yup. Really MEAN chicks.http://208.50.7.95/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif




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Master Joe
09.14.00, 09:48 AM
Thanks for the reply Down in Flames, and too all the others of course,(great reply from Paradiddle - hit the nail right on the head).

I just didn't want any one to think I was raggin' on a Halen album.

Thankin' you again.



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You people knock me on my
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Glenn
09.14.00, 09:59 AM
Master Joe, I certainly didn't think you were bashing Fair Warning. Good topic.http://208.50.7.95/vhlforum/smilies/smile.gif

RAFTER
09.14.00, 02:33 PM
I have never been a big fan of "Fair Warning". In my opinion any of the van halen records with sammy were better than FW.

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The Van Baron
09.14.00, 02:45 PM
....that record !!...i think i was 12...and to hear dave say "she looked so fuckin good" on sinners swing , when your 12 was the coolest !....i remember rewinding that part !i dont think i ever remember any other bands singer saying a cus.word in a song....the whole band sounded great on that record

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The Van Baron
09.15.00, 06:43 PM
...we also get to hear alot of mike on that record

redfire
09.16.00, 08:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RAFTER:
In my opinion any of the van halen records with sammy were better than FW.
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Alright...... Anyway, FW typified the hard rocking, loud, full of attitude style VH was all about back then. There isn't a bad song on there. If you wanna bass out like a pimp, you got Push Comes to Shove and Saturday Afternoon in the Park into One Foot Out the Door. Hear About It Later has some of the best lyrics ever. "Ain't got no money, got no house on the hill. So tell me honey, will your lovin pay my bills? Yeah." Mean Street and Unchained are superior hard rocking songs. Dirty Movies and Sinner's Swing are 2 great and underrated songs. So This is Love is my favorite song off that album, great blend of lyrics and music. It's easy to see, IMO, why it's the best.

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Ed6150
09.16.00, 09:45 AM
Why not FAIR WARNING http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif

RAFTER
09.16.00, 12:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by redfire:
Alright...... Anyway, FW typified the hard rocking, loud, full of attitude style VH was all about back then. There isn't a bad song on there. If you wanna bass out like a pimp, you got Push Comes to Shove and Saturday Afternoon in the Park into One Foot Out the Door. Hear About It Later has some of the best lyrics ever. "Ain't got no money, got no house on the hill. So tell me honey, will your lovin pay my bills? Yeah." Mean Street and Unchained are superior hard rocking songs. Dirty Movies and Sinner's Swing are 2 great and underrated songs. So This is Love is my favorite song off that album, great blend of lyrics and music. It's easy to see, IMO, why it's the best.

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I guess I cant argue with that. http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/redface.gif



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YankeeRose
09.16.00, 10:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RAFTER:
I have never been a big fan of "Fair Warning". In my opinion any of the van halen records with sammy were better than FW.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I completely agree with you! All of VH's albums with Sammy are a lot better than FW IMO.http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/tongue.gif



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KirraneUnchained
09.17.00, 01:39 AM
This was the album that turned me into the VH-crazed fan I am today. All the songs are incredible, and besides, I never felt like taking over the world until the first time I heard "Unchained"! http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif

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